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Offline rilo57

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Re: Whats happenin'
« Reply #1605 on: November 18, 2017, 12:12:55 PM »
Reading what ABTA has to say isent a very hard case to represent the quad problem.8 incidents over 8 years and 2 not even in Greece.
I do think that insurance is mandatory,and safety gear should be more strikt..
I wonder if facts were published regarding hospital admitions regarding drink problems,how they would compare.

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« Reply #1606 on: November 18, 2017, 02:11:39 PM »
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Ten years ago, 1,200 patients were admitted to hospital in the UK after quad bike accidents. By 2002 - the last year for which data is available - the figure was more than 4,200.
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Every summer thousands of quad bikes are rented to young people who have never driven one of the infernal machines before and who have never driven in Greece before. These horrible machines are very unstable, have no safety belt and the roads round Zante are nothing short of a nightmare. Every summer HUNDREDS of young people have accidents. If you extrapolate across all of the resorts in Spain and Greece, the numbers jump to THOUSANDS. The casualty rate for people who rent quad bikes is a simply astonishing 25%. That is ONE IN FOUR! One in every four people who rent a quad bike will have an accident and hurt themselves. Also, if you have an accident, you will usually incur damage to the bike, which you will receive a hefty bill for. They have your passport and you will basically be extorted out of several hundred euro, it’s a well known racket. This money would be far better spent on something enjoyable like a nice cold beer or a Woo Woo on the beach.
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A quad bike accident in Taupō on Saturday night left one person dead and another with moderate injuries, bringing the number of deaths from quad bikes this year to 14, a record for a single year.

The former director of Lincoln University's Telford campus, Charley Lamb, said the deaths were occurring as a result of crush injuries, which research showed roll bars would prevent.

"Very few bikes have roll over protection, which of course they should do. Whether people want to debate that and argue that, they can. But they used to do the same about safety frames on tractors and they did the same about seatbelts in cars."

"There's no doubt that roll over protection on quads will stop crush injuries and stop deaths. It won't stop injuries."
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Re: Whats happenin'
« Reply #1607 on: November 19, 2017, 08:50:59 PM »
Dont see whats relevant...again stats from different locations..you can do this with any kind of transport..better ban cycleists in london.more serious accidents there...all boils down to the competence of the user..as you said yourself Jim,it wasent for you..plus many of the accidents with the younger drivers,im sure alcohol will have some influence..

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« Reply #1608 on: November 19, 2017, 09:32:23 PM »
Rilo - I'm completely neutral about this. Just pointing out that when George said it was rubbish that quads can be dangerous, they are internationally thought to be dangerous. Not all ATVs are legal to drive on roads in the UK, for safety reasons.




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« Reply #1609 on: November 20, 2017, 12:45:36 AM »
Agree Jimbo,any form of transport can be lethal in the wrong hands..Take a walk around Amsterdam and try and avoid all the crazy cycleists...

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« Reply #1610 on: Yesterday at 11:26:22 AM »
Here's what ABTA has to say:
https://abta.com/about-us/press/holidaymakers-putting-themselves-at-risk-by-hiring-quad-bikes

I have never ridden a scooter or motorbike - seen too many tourists who've removed a lot of skin when falling off. I did hire a quad in Agios Stefanos this year, but hated it and gave it back after three days. I didn't feel at all in control of it. I've owned and driven some very powerful sports cars in my time, I've driven thousands of miles over very dangerous African roads, but the quad was the only vehicle that's ever scared me.

That's the root of the concern: people who would never hire a scooter feel safe on a quad because it has four wheels. It's not as safe as one assumes, particularly (I read) when cornering or accelerating hard. Apart from the fact that the automatic gearbox was "snatchy" and prone to jerks when starting off, I found the steering remarkably un-positive and inclined to veer at the slightest pothole. You are an experienced quad-rider - I'm not, and I'm probably more typical.

I have to agree with Jimbo. Driven a quad once with my brother-in-law. Very jerky and stiff handling to such an extent that my in-law cracked a wrist trying to control the thing. He didn't crash or have an accident it was just the effort required to drive it.

I was concerned throughout about overturning as they're very heavy.

Please note this was in the UK.
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