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Welcome to San Stefanos (NW Corfu) => San Stefanos news and views => Topic started by: Gillywoo on February 08, 2010, 12:27:52 AM
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I am not sure how many people realise this but plans are being drawn up to build a huge Wind Farm just off shore from San Steph that will totally ruin the town and probably the tourist trade on which it depends.
As the Website below explains the proposal is to build 300 Wind Turbines each 550feet high, they will be situated around each of the Diapontian islands including Donkey Island just off the coast of San Steph.
http://www.aioliko.com/
This site if built will totally destroy the San Steph seascape, who will want to lie on the beach and relax in San Steph with the noise and flicker from 300 Wind Turbines for company? The famous San Steph sunset will be broken up by the line of these huge structures and the flicker at sunset will be cast across the town at dusk.
Construction of the Wind Farm will involve the movement of thousands of heavy plant and machinery and such a large industrial construction site will have a profound affect om the remote Corfu North East landscape.
If you look at the Website you will see a map of the proposed Wind Farm location and as you can see the closest turbines will be just half a mile from the beach and will tower 550feet above the sea, a similar height to Blackpool Tower.
If this goes ahead then many people including myself would be put off visiting San Steph and I am worried that it could destroy the tourist trade in the town.
If you are worried as well please sign the petition on the Website and conserve San Steph for the locals and tourists alike.
Andy
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Cheers Andy...... As a non-Greek speaker where is the petition? I'm lost ! ???
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Hi Don
Go to the translate button at the top right hand corner.
Gill
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What translate button?????
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Top right hand corner..................... Thank you Gill and Andy for the info....... Looking forward to June and seeing you again....... We are on Easyjet again so will arrive around midnight. Stopping at Peli & Maria's this time.
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Above the picture at the very top of the page, there is a grey box which says translate.
Gill
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I just clicked on one of the pictures and it took me to the petition which I have now signed
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Heard about this last year. Signed petition
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Likewise - saw the "erection" on top of the headland measuring the wind.
Heard last year - I have signed the petition, but can't translate - what does this button say? I can't find it on top right!!
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I'd like to read a translation of this - but I just can't find any translate button - can you paste in a link that has been translated?
Spent last 30 mins trying everything!!
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I signed the petition which i found by clicking on one of the pictures but there is no grey button to translate. I would like to be able to read it too if anyone can help
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I thought it was just me who couldn't find the translate button but signed the petition anyway
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could not find translation button shocked at the thought of tony seeing an erection at the top off the hill have packed my walking boots in my case for may lol!!!!
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Don't spend all day up there Zoe - you may find Jules and Sandra - LOL
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No translate button on here . Will have a look on lap-top as Sandra signed petition yesterday.
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Here is the translation page:
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=el&u=http://aioliko.com/&ei=DDhKS-jyLNTLjAe8he2ABw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.aioliko.com/%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
I just checked the Agni site on this - so with thanks to them - as this is an important subject - I will reproduce a bit of the thread!
Apologies if I have done the wrong thing! I have given credits!
"Sunnypop" = say's - there is already a long thread on this subject. I know I started it! But don't fret too much about this proposed wind farm, it is not going to happen, it was turned down by all councils involved in December!!
A private energy firm made a proposal, it was turned down. End of.
Although, let's hope for a more realistic and thoughtful proposal next time
http://www.agni.gr/message_boards/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=6&TopicID=51987&ReturnPage=&PagePosition=0&ThreadPage=1
"Rocky & Bill" = say's - There was talk a couple of years ago about a wind farm near the top of the Pantokrator. With my journalist hat on I contacted the company concerned and asked for further information - never heard anything back though!
The company behind this was 'enova' and if you're interested their article relating to it a 24MW wind farm on the island of Corfu and the application for 4 MW solar project in the same location can be found here fourth item down.
http://www.enova.de/ccms/index.php3?hid=049216&spid=2
There is also a FACEBOOK GROUP on this:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=253346864758&ref=mf
That's it - just read the thread if you are still worried!
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Just signed it - thanks Tony for the translation link - I couldn't find the translate button either.
We heard a bit about this in the summer - and I'm appalled at the idea. Not nice for the tourists or the locals. Who wants to have the beautiful view spoiled by this ?? Our house looks over the sea - I don't really want to have to sit and look at this from my balcony.
It would certainly affect tourism I'm sure - as if tourism isn't already affected!
Honestly - who's thinking all these ideas up!!
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Was just thinking also - this not only will affect tourism - what about the fishing??
As we all know there is still a busy harbour there and lots of our Greek friends are fishermen. There's another industry going on in our villages and that will be affected too. I spoke to a fisherman in November about this and he said its going to be a real problem.
Whatever next ?? ???
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thanks for the link tony have signed
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I've now done a lot of reading on this - I hope - I guess - that it may not go ahead - loads of opposition and any Greek Politician who backed it would never get re-elected if it kills tourism.
Seems that locally, anyway it has been rejected.
Lets hope so!!
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Lets hope for one and alls sake that it doesn't get the go ahead. It would truly spoil San Stefanos for everyone.
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Well I don't want the noise drifting in, never mind the caustic view!!
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I am not sure how many people realise this but plans are being drawn up to build a huge Wind Farm just off shore from San Steph that will totally ruin the town and probably the tourist trade on which it depends.
As the Website below explains the proposal is to build 300 Wind Turbines each 550feet high, they will be situated around each of the Diapontian islands including Donkey Island just off the coast of San Steph.
http://www.aioliko.com/
This site if built will totally destroy the San Steph seascape, who will want to lie on the beach and relax in San Steph with the noise and flicker from 300 Wind Turbines for company? The famous San Steph sunset will be broken up by the line of these huge structures and the flicker at sunset will be cast across the town at dusk.
Construction of the Wind Farm will involve the movement of thousands of heavy plant and machinery and such a large industrial construction site will have a profound affect om the remote Corfu North East landscape.
If you look at the Website you will see a map of the proposed Wind Farm location and as you can see the closest turbines will be just half a mile from the beach and will tower 550feet above the sea, a similar height to Blackpool Tower.
If this goes ahead then many people including myself would be put off visiting San Steph and I am worried that it could destroy the tourist trade in the town.
If you are worried as well please sign the petition on the Website and conserve San Steph for the locals and tourists alike.
Andy
Thanks for the info Andy. We have got quite a few peope to sign the petition, even people who have never been to San Stef are signing it.
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Yes - I agree Pembo - I am doing the same - I don't think it will go ahead - or if we can stop it if it does!
But by god we can DO OUR BEST TO TRY!!
You won't stop it by doing nothing - that's for sure!
I am rounding up people to sign it!
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Dear Friends
I must point that this is not a problem of san stefanos only, but it concerns THE WHOLE ISLAND OF CORFU!!!
The proposed development of an industrial wind farm in the area of north west Corfu has been objected by the Local councils of Esperion And Agios Georgios , ( North West Corfu).
Soon we are waiting for the objection of the local council of Thianli ( North east Corfu) And the Prefecture of Corfu.
All the associations of Corfu have objected this proposition including the ASSOCIATION OF CORFU TRAVEL AGENTS , villa Owners, Hotel Owners and Hotel Directors, The tourist guides Environmental and cultural organisations and many others.
All Objections among with the first part of aprox 3000 signatures from Corfiots and friends of Corfu have been presented by a committee of citizens of North Corfu and the diapontian Island to all the governmental services and offices in charge,
as well as in our Corfu members of the Greek parliament.
However more signatures are collected through our website www.aioliko.com which is currently only in Greek language as we believe that Such news published on the internet especially on touristic resort sites have the potential of giving the public a wrong idea of what’s going on.
Such a development has not been authorized by the state and is not going to happen without the acquiescence of the local population.
Currently there is action being taken by local organizations and active citizens in order to inform and consult the local councils and citizens as well as every governmental and environmental authority in Greece and European community..
In such an area where tourism associated with the island’s natural beauty is the main source of development, we have to be careful in the fact of how we are going act.
We aim not to create panic since no building permits have been issued.
Such news travel rapidly around the world and can be used also against us from any foreign mass media and competitive tourist enterprises. Therefore we have not published any of our website’s content in foreign languages as it could possibly turn potential customers away from booking their holiday or investing in this area.
However, we have in our mind that if larger publicity needs to be taken then we will be ready to inform the rest of the world about it.
never the less, we are spreading the fact by word to mouth, we are collecting signatures from the local population and friends of the island and we organize public meetings with the authorities and citizens of the island in order to find ways and secure that this would never happen. you are more than welcome to sign our petition online at http://aioliko.com/index.php/silogi-ypografon.html (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=el&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Faioliko.com%2Findex.php%2Fsilogi-ypografon.html) or if you live in Corfu you may contact us in order to get a signature-leaflet where you can sign manually and find others who want to do the same.
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Hi Dimitris
I can assure you that this San Stefanos Forum is right behind you in their opposition to the wind farms.I urge every member of our forum to sign the petition highlighted in your posting.
Thanks for the further information.
Yannis26
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Following Dimitris posting i have used the link supplied & registered my objection.The link came up in English so no translation problems.
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Thanks for the info Dimitris - Yannis put it very well!
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signed today.!!!
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I saw three of the same sized windmills today near the wide river (Avon???) close to Somerset/Welsh borders - M5/M4 - couldn't miss it.
Horrible to view - and so big!!
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I read this board a lot and this post horrified me. Thankfully it now seems it's not going to happen but I have signed the petition just in case. x
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It will hurt the main economy of this part of Corfu - so crazy!
I am not surprised that it's a political grenade!
Glad it hopefully will get buried!
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Where I live we have a 30 field of windmills just off shore and they do not really spoil the view of the North Sea much (sarcasm intended), but it is unusual to find all 30 working. Apart from the fact they cost a £million each to install and have had repeated problems with the gearboxes, cables and joints requiring relaying the cables and at hushed up cost, it is highly dubious if they are at any stretched imagination cost effective, even if the climate change alarmists would have you think so. Having said all that I would not like to see them at Paradise.
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No way - it will start a destructive string of events and lots of people will think twice if it ever got off the ground!
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What a shame, if this windfarm is built we will not return to the area, we enjoy it because it is so peacefull and the views are great, build this and its time to move on.
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Everyone feels the same - but for now anyway - it doesn't look like happening!!
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signed the petition today [re windmill in corfu good luck] ::) :-* :-[
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I'm am optimist - I really can't see them doing it or getting away with it!
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If you are having trouble translating the aioliko website, use http://translate.google.com I did, and read the whole thing in English. Just the size of these turbines is horrifying, I wouldn't want them on my doorstep that's for sure. Let alone the noise, and, the infrastructure that will be required to maintain them. Given the parlous state of the Greek economy I can't see anything happening in the near future, but........ Arc.
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I was flying over the Essex coast on Monday, aircraft was quite far along the Thames Estuary, way beyond Southend and I counted 50 of these windmills plonked in the sea. It reminded me of the potential issue in San Stef and i wondered if anyone knew people in that area who had experience of the impact these wind turbines caused.
These looked to be quite far from the coast and from 15,000 feet they looked harmless.
Anybody got info on these?
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Sorry Loftyscot - I don't know anyone who lives in the Thames estuary,
I have however seen a few Essex girls in white shoes dancing round white bags flailing their arms,
just like windmills and boy are they noisy!! Hope that helps a touch!! LOL
Here is a little info on them - (windmills) - and by the way - they are a size smaller than the size of the proposals for Corfu,
which should never be allowed to go ahead! UK is having the worlds biggest farm it seems - so expect it to grow!
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/upnor.sailing/wind.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2006/dec/19/energy.greenpolitics
http://www.bwea.com/ukwed/offshore.asp
http://www.financemarkets.co.uk/2009/05/13/world%E2%80%99s-biggest-wind-farm-planned-for-thames-estuary/
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Many thanks for info Tony, cheers
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Lofty - Pleasure!!
also - - - - I just had a word with Gordon and he is putting one in your garden - free electrics!! LOL
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Go to Gran Canaria and see the wind farms on land by the coast! Not just ugly but obscene!
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Always a downside with "Green Projects" - that's life!
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I was in Skegness yesterday on business with a colleague.
There's a big wind farm offshore. Didn't count, but maybe 40 wind turbines.
The thing is - they actually looked rather beautiful. They added some features to the horizon, moving slowly in the misty sunny air. They fitted perfectly into the seascape. I must say that I was surprised that we both found them rather peaceful to watch. They looked like austere guardians of the wind. If Constable were still alive he might have painted them.
Just thought I'd mention it.
Jim
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There's no accounting for taste!! LOL
Aye!! - they're a rum lot oop' in Skeggy!!
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In Skegness on business - With a colleague !!!!!! Tried that excuse once.... DIVORCE is expensive!!
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I am informed by my Skeggy contacts, that he was last seen in the Pink Palace with some kind of naughty secretary?
Not sure quite what that means?? Any idea?? LOL
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I well tell Don in SS in exchange for a bira !!
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can Don take all the excitement??
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If he can't, I'll pop into 3W and post the news here.
Oh, all right - demoing some software in a school. Nice school.
I know Don looks handsome and fragile in the pictures I've seen, but I doubt if this is exactly life-threatening excitement!
Stin iyiamas
Jim
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Jim - you could have spiced it up a bit - Don's gone off to bed now!! LOL
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hi me and the missus are san stef regulars but new to this forum and we were stunned to hear of the wind farm plans we have signed the petition and hope the rethink the plan
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BluMick - I think the latest news was it's rejected!
However - we all need to keep an eye on this!
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Hi Blumik
Welcome to the forums. Where do you stay in SS and when are you going? Glad you have signed the petition as well :)
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Hi Blumik
Welcome to the forums. Where do you stay in SS and when are you going? Glad you have signed the petition as well :)
I second that.
Yammas
Yannis
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The petition must have collected a lot of names by now, we signed it "yonks" ago - anyone have an idea??
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hadn't heard about the wind farm . found the translate button eventually so signed petition now. what's it like in san stefanos in september. we've always been in may or july before
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Hi Valley girl,
Sept is great usually, we have done many Septembers there, just can get chilly at night if the wind blows up, so take a cardigan / jumper in case.
No problem eating outside at night though!!
Days are beautiful, just perfect on the beach, not oppressive.
Also they often get a "Mistral" - a wind that kicks the waves up, and gives surf -
it may even be too strong to use the beach for a day, so it's pool time - but it always goes back to dead calm at some point -
it seems to go in 10 day cycles from our experience, part of the charm and a nice cycle of weather.
Quite rarely - you may get an odd storm, but they usually disappear very quickly.
There is always a little breeze onto the beach in Sept - on calm days which is lovely!
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thanks tonyco1
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When are you going this year Valley Girl?...... It seems everyone bar us has given up on late June early July.
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Don - can't you do early Sept??
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Whilst we were out there for the last few weeks, a public meeting was held at Avliotes, when 35 local mayors were present as well as a lot of villagers, and they all signed up to even more protests against the wind farm. The initial petition of over 5000 signatures was suitably ignored by the authorities. It does seem thaty this blot on the landscape is going ahead come what may!!
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There does seem to be conflicting info on this, I did hear that it would not now be in San Stefanos but somewhere out to sea, although this would still be visiable by land, how much impact and also where the area for storing energy would be seems to be still vague. Perhaps anyone who has any contact with the big Tour ops in this area i.e TUI and Thomas Cook could push this further as both companies do pormote green tourism but for the benefit or all , customers and suppliers, any ideas where we as a forum can take this further perhaps???? ???
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P.S I do live in Avliotes and so am very interested in this, but there is very little literature in English on this however my husband is Greek and translates to me what is the developing situation. My Greek is fair but when it gets technical I do struggle!!!
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The posters and pictures were all around Arillas and they mention some island, and when I asked Dimitris in the Vassillis supermarket, he said it was off SS, and he and Leon both went to the meeting. If the government gets some money to do it, then protests or not I guess it will go ahead (as governments do!!)
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Any updates to post would be appreciated, as then at least I can let the non Greek speaking residents know any updates you guys may have. Last I heard it had been deferred, according to local TV channel as it was not an accpetable option for here but who knows?????
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maybe the economic situation will prevent it happening.
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Fingers crossed
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I hope this is not funded by the meddling Eurocrats, or that will be the end of it!
I can't believe the Greek Governments stand on this as it impacts on their biggest source of income - Tourism.
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It probably is TC, think how many pavements and roads are begun and then just stop completely in the middle of nowhere, and somewhere nearby is a huge board stating how many EU euros were spent doing it. When the money stops- the work stops.
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A bit like the New Avliotes by-pass road, it just stopped - machinery left as it was - unfinished - crazy!
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A 21st century solution to cheapen an expensively produced resource that everyone uses. What's wrong with that? Put it far enough out into the sea, the fish get a fright for a couple of years while getting built then get wise. People will look out in 30 years time and say what clever idea - why didn't they do that earlier instead of burning all that coal and oil.
Construction jobs as well, good money, and any sensible contractors will live in San Stef bringing much needed revenue to the village. They will be on expenses too and probably spend more per head than the bargain hunting Brits.The locals will be filling their boots and we should encourage increasing their wealth if that's what the majority want. Rememebr there is very little revenue through the winter.
Look at all the hot air wasted in protests in the UK about wind farms, new runways, M25s, oil rig fabrication yards. Once its complete and people get used to it nobody will bother.
This is Loftyscot for BBC Breakfast News :)
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Let's face it. Once upon a time there was a lovely crescent beach and a small harbour serving a village on the top of the hill. Then there was a steady pouring of concrete, a forest of reinforcing steel rods, neon lights, and Lo - SS was born. Anybody thinking that some elegant wind turbines beyond the islands will in any way "spoil" SS really needs to go to SpecSavers! In what particular way the classical beauty of the Condor Bar will be spoiled escapes me!
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Self-interest will always rule Guys!!
I'm not sure the view will be enhanced by a wind farm and once built and contractors gone - even if they stayed in SS (doubtful),
and the view is one reason people go there - not for the Condor bar though!
Still - if it happens - I guess I'll worry then!
Like you say - it rarely happens that big projects get stopped - Heathrow 3rd Runway was a rare exception, caused by the recession.
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Just joined this site hoping to 'discover' SS for myself this year only to be horrified at this news. Immediately signed the petition. Ah well, better go soon!
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Only time will tell - welcome to the Forum!
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There is some more information on the proposed wind farm at San Stefanos at the Green Corfu Blog (http://greencorfu.wordpress.com (http://greencorfu.wordpress.com)). Click the link to the right on the blog homepage, "Meeting against windfarms on Corfu".
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Thanks for that link splutface
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Any more up to date news on this issue, anyone??
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Asked recently at the Romanza on this and was told that it is not now going ahead.And if you think about it how could it.Due to the financial situation in greece.
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They're starting after they finish the Avliotes bypass.
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News Flash,
The by-pass will be finished soon, it is due to be opened by the Mayor of Corfu Town on the 1st July - - - er - - - 2022 that is!!
The road is actually finished, but they now cannot afford the ribbon to cut!
I suspect it actually took so long - - - because that the economy was put on the back foot owing to revelations by the new website Jimileaks.
The owner of Jimileaks is now currently in hiding in the Angola Embassy, seeking asylum, as Sweden is trying to extradite him for not being naughty enough!!
It seems they insist he finishes the job!! This is allegedly following complaints from someone called Ulrika.
Currently the wind farm debate has "hotted-up" owing to huge quantities of beans and sprouts being consumed by cliff-top dwellers whose balcony's would overlook the site.
"They must be there for a reason" voiced the editor of the Daily Snail.
The Daily Snail is currently being snubbed by the profession for failing to hack any phones at all - - it's just not teamwork!
Meanwhile Greece carries on as normal, through weekly elections, and life is actually quite good.
No one is starving, no one has jumped off high buildings, the bank cash machines all work and the tourists are flocking back -
Only Germany disapproves!
More of the latest news at 10:00pm tomorrow
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The avliotes bypass is not finished due to the fact the builder hasnt not been paid so he has left a big gap in the road making it impassable.Non of the greek workmen have been paid even though they worked on it they were paid up to a certain point and then they got no more due to the greek government lack of payment.Now the builder has put boulders along the road where the gap was to stop use of the road.I know this as my good
friends husband as one of the greek people to work on it and I have just come back from there.Dont hold your breathe for either events to occur.
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Dont panick apparently the idea has been quashed !!! we were told by one of the taxi drivers and like hairdressers they are the font of all knowledge !!
What will ruin san stef is though is the condor getting in more acts like flipping chubby brown !! what is that all about....not careful it will end up like sidari !!
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I am not sure how many people realise this but plans are being drawn up to build a huge Wind Farm just off shore from San Steph that will totally ruin the town and probably the tourist trade on which it depends.
As the Website below explains the proposal is to build 300 Wind Turbines each 550feet high, they will be situated around each of the Diapontian islands including Donkey Island just off the coast of San Steph.
http://www.aioliko.com/
This site if built will totally destroy the San Steph seascape, who will want to lie on the beach and relax in San Steph with the noise and flicker from 300 Wind Turbines for company? The famous San Steph sunset will be broken up by the line of these huge structures and the flicker at sunset will be cast across the town at dusk.
Construction of the Wind Farm will involve the movement of thousands of heavy plant and machinery and such a large industrial construction site will have a profound affect om the remote Corfu North East landscape.
If you look at the Website you will see a map of the proposed Wind Farm location and as you can see the closest turbines will be just half a mile from the beach and will tower 550feet above the sea, a similar height to Blackpool Tower.
If this goes ahead then many people including myself would be put off visiting San Steph and I am worried that it could destroy the tourist trade in the town.
If you are worried as well please sign the petition on the Website and conserve San Steph for the locals and tourists alike.
Andy
Hi ALL...I unfortunately cannot get to the website concerned to sign said petition...DNS Look-Up Failed...does anyone know if u can still sign this petition online ?? Thanx xoxo
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Hi ALL...I unfortunately cannot get to the website concerned to sign said petition...DNS Look-Up Failed...does anyone know if u can still sign this petition online ?? Thanx xoxo
Don't think you need to worry about this Hotxprezz,these plans have probably been abandoned for now as they can't afford them,thank goodness!!
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If you still want to express your opinion on this subject I believe you can if you go on to the Green Corfu website mentioned in Splutface's post
on May24th 2011 (see further up on this page)
If you scroll down the right hand side to "Our post per month" and click on March 17th 2011 it's all there and you can leave your comment at the bottom.
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Excuse my bad manners Hotxprezz,I meant to add " Welcome to the forum".
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Since this was first posted - it seems that these green sites are not actually as green or efficient as they promised
lots of articles on the web on this subject...