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Welcome to San Stefanos (NW Corfu) => San Stefanos news and views => Topic started by: riojabear on June 28, 2016, 04:18:10 PM
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I voted remain, but I'm not a sore loser. I'm going to get on with it!
I've also been going to Greece for the last 25 years. I've been to fabulous places, Kefalos on Kos, Pefkos on Rhodes, Lassi in Kefalonia, Argassi, Alykanas, and Kalamaki, and last year Agios Georgios a few miles away from San Stefanos.
Every holiday I've ever been on in Greece has been fabulous. The Greeks are a wonderful nation, full of wonderful people who care about trying to make our holidays the best they can. I can remember arriving in Kefalos in the middle of the night just after my wife had had a big operation, I was triple stressed and I started making a list of issues in my head, probably about 30, of things to fling at the rep and the appartment owner.
In the morning we had, a couple of hours to ourselves, walking around feeling the sunshine on our faces, being met with smiles and "kalimeras". When I met the rep and the owner they asked me if there were any issues - I said - "Yes, there's no tin-opener" ...... No f***ing tin opener - that's all I could complain about! (we had a new tin-opener in an hour!)
This is my first holiday to San Stefanos. I'm staying at Naksika, and because of the power of the internet, I've read all the great reviews. Not one politician, not one xenophobe will spoil my holiday. I'm looking forward to the best holiday I'm ever going to have with fantastic people. I'm going to buy beer, eat fresh beautifully prepared food and I'm going to (attempt to) juggle my football on the beach and pretend know I'm better than Wayne Rooney and the other sub-standard £150,000/week footballers who so sadly let us down yesterday.
Anybody who is going to San Stefanos on holiday, and will be there in August between 12th-26th look out for the pink headed ball juggler on the beach and invite me to share a beer or two, and I'll join you and promise to make your holiday a little jollier!
Enjoy your holidays everyone, you've deserved them!
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:) We will be there at that time - will look out for you, I cant wait!
I love the beach, and one of my happiest memories of my last holiday is watching a daft local dog run down from thr rose garden apartments to the beach, ears flapping in the the breeze, for his morning play, joining in any ball game he could.
I love the locals, the sunsets, the wonderful greek food, the totally relaxed atmosphere....
cant come soon enough!
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We are there from 3rd till 21st and will be frequenting Nafsica on a regular basis..you couldnt have found a nicer place to stay.enjoy some of the best food in the village, be served by, Chris, Niko and Stefanos who will always have a smile and do their upmost to make your stay a happy one..Not forgeting Spiros who has a great humor and will offer you the best service possible..Enjoy..
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We are going on Friday and staying at Stamatis apartments, for the 12th time! We eat every night at the Nafsika taverna, because we like the rustic surroundings and fabulous Greek food and not forgetting, Spiros and his fabulous team who welcome us back every year, with open arms! Just like going home, as everyone says. I hope you enjoy your holiday when you go and feel sure it won't be your last there! :)
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You'll love the Nafsika and Spiros (owner) and Stefanos and Nikos (waiters) - you'll just have the best time!
Been going to SS for over 30 years and we'll be there this year from 8-28th August and I'm trying to persuade Spiros to have an 80's night on my birthday (12 August) so hopefully your first night will be cosmic... :)
We stay in Vagelis 3 bed house every year which overlooks the Nafsika so spend most days round their pool - the grilled chicken with a Greek salad is a must at lunchtime but all the food there is lovely so you'll be spoilt for choice
Will no doubt see you in a few weeks :)
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Silverstar, have a great birthday and holiday!! :)
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Not going to Delfino Blu for your birthday meal then Silverstar? ;)
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Not going to Delfino Blu for your birthday meal then Silverstar? ;)
Think I remember something about this a couple of years ago?
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Yeah, bit of a stale joke......we dont do Delfino Blue....
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Nice one, BAJ!
We're going in a couple of days, and I'm hoping it will cheer Gillie up, because she's been sobbing half the time since the vote came in. I've spent a lot of time saying "sorry" to my Greek, Italian, French, Dutch, Polish, Belgium, German and other friends and clients for this (in my opinion) disastrous example of collective stupidity.
As Winston Churchill said in 1948, " I am a European."
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Wow didnt realise Winston had been around that long.lol
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Thanks to everyone for the Nafsika recommendations. And for all those who will be there when we are - Not long to go now, can almost smell the Ouzo 8)
We'll have two teenagers in tow. Any recommendations for a lively bar in the evenings (with a traditional one for grown-ups next door)!
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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston ...
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Thanks, Rilo. Even the centuries have depreciated! Edit done.
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Your welcome...
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Absolutely endorse all the comments about Nafsika. Don't stay there but it's one of our favourites for food. Condor for the teens and Athens or Acabar for you - not next door but quite close
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As Tony Blair said yesterday the Referendum was like moving house without viewing the new one!
This week the Brexit crew are finding out that the new house hasn't even been built yet and the land is prone to flooding!
'Forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing'
Andy
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'Forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing'
Andy
Good grief!! Really!! It must be so hard to be a remainer carrying around the weight of being right about everything.
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I voted remain, but I'm not a sore loser. I'm going to get on with it!
I've also been going to Greece for the last 25 years. I've been to fabulous places, Kefalos on Kos, Pefkos on Rhodes, Lassi in Kefalonia, Argassi, Alykanas, and Kalamaki, and last year Agios Georgios a few miles away from San Stefanos.
Every holiday I've ever been on in Greece has been fabulous. The Greeks are a wonderful nation, full of wonderful people who care about trying to make our holidays the best they can.
Well said.
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Good grief!! Really!! It must be so hard to be a remainer carrying around the weight of being right about everything.
Absolutely spot on !!
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Not really. The Brexit vote was ill-considered, and frankly rather stupid.
One of my friends has just had to cancel a trip to Canada because the air fare has gone up by £200.
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That's it. I've had enough. It's bad enough being bombarded with patronising smug drivel on Facebook without having to put up with it on here. I hope I never become so self absorbed and so clocksure I know everything.
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Oh look... The FTSE 100 has regained its losses following Brexit!
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Oh look... The FTSE 100 has regained its losses following Brexit!
Let the panic subside and all will be well, but what do I know I'm not a remainer..
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This topic is entitled "Brexit and all that rubbish"! A lot of us have strong views. I would suggest if you are fed up with hearing people talk, discuss, appear confident that their view is the right one, etc that you don't view this topic!! Just a thought!
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The FTSE 100 is not a reliable indicator because it has loads of multinationals in it. The FTSE 250 is down significantly.
I don't wish to be told off for commenting here, as Gillie says, given the subject. For the last week I've been apologising to my Polish, French, Italian, Belgian, Greek and other friends, colleagues and clients for the xenophobic vote originating from the nasty Farage and his ex-BNP and Britain First members.
Still - it's going to take many years - possibly ten - to sort out trade deals. What was one is now legion. We will have to expand our Civil Service to do it. Of course, our Civil Service is not the same as the EU's Civil Service, normally called "bureaucracy" by the Brexit supporters. Unfortunately, at my age it's unlikely that I'll live to experience the paradise which I've been promised.
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This topic is entitled "Brexit and all that rubbish"! A lot of us have strong views. I would suggest if you are fed up with hearing people talk, discuss, appear confident that their view is the right one, etc that you don't view this topic!! Just a thought!
It's ok being confident your view is right, but what annoys me is all leave voters are stupid uneducated morons, apperantly, it's a democracy, majority won let's get on with it.
I wasn't happy England lost the other night, shame we can't have a vote for a replay, but we can't, so let's get on with it.
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What has air fair going up to Canada to do with EU vote. Thought we are still in it, or have I missed something?!!
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Air fares have gone up across the board. There is uncertainty in the global markets and commerce.
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Spesh - we have a parliamentary democracy. That's not the same as a non-binding referendum - which is advisory. We can only leave the EU when parliament repeals the 1972 Act that took us in.
The Fat Lady has not yet sung.
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The FTSE 100 is not a reliable indicator because it has loads of multinationals in it. The FTSE 250 is down significantly.
I don't wish to be told off for commenting here, as Gillie says, given the subject. For the last week I've been apologising to my Polish, French, Italian, Belgian, Greek and other friends, colleagues and clients for the xenophobic vote originating from the nasty Farage and his ex-BNP and Britain First members.
Still - it's going to take many years - possibly ten - to sort out trade deals. What was one is now legion. We will have to expand our Civil Service to do it. Of course, our Civil Service is not the same as the EU's Civil Service, normally called "bureaucracy" by the Brexit supporters. Unfortunately, at my age it's unlikely that I'll live to experience the paradise which I've been promised.
Blimey Jimbo.... Of course there will be a number of voters who will have fallen into your xenophobic category, there always has been and there always will be. However you are surely not suggesting that there are 17 million of them are you? That is not the country I recognise, nor the view of the Brexit voters I know.
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I voted leave but I can assure you I am not xenophobic, racist, small minded or any of the many other insults being thrown at those of us who chose to differ in their opinion from the Remainers. I was always brought up to respect other people and their opinions but it would appear that if you dare to differ from the Remain viewpoint you become some kind of unintelligent sub human.
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I voted leave but I can assure you I am not xenophobic, racist, small minded or any of the many other insults being thrown at those of us who chose to differ in their opinion from the Remainers. I was always brought up to respect other people and their opinions but it would appear that if you dare to differ from the Remain viewpoint you become some kind of unintelligent sub human.
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You're in the soup Jimbo
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Yep and its not Consom'e either, think its up to your neck in Batchelors thick chunky chicken with veg..
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There must be something in it, since I voted leave I'm struggling to remember my own name, is my car petrol or diesel, even started to sit down for a pee !! God dam this breakfast thingy, really must find a book to read
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Everybody still confident that the economy will have a massive boost? So far, the predictions of 95% of the world's economists that the UK would be a basket case in the event of Leave have turned out to be correct. So when is the glory coming? Not this year, not next year - the year after? As Andy said earlier, everything is getting more expensive. So it's not just me who's "in the soup" - it's all of us, because a small majority, equivalent to the population of Birmingham, made a potentially catastrophic decision.
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I'm well hacked off with the increase in price for flights/holidays next year (and no, I didn't vote leave)
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Simple... Don't go, the euro has been this low before, we've had recessions before, oh and were not out yet.
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From a strictly personal point of view I voted remain as most of our Customers at work are in Europe, however,our Taxi driver on the way to Ag.Stef in June was full of praise that we had brexited, you can tell the Greeks have very little faith in the EU
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The pound/euro rate has only been about this low in 2008 during the major financial crash. The pound/USD is now at a historically low rate. Check if you don't believe me.
http://www.exfinuk.com/historical-forex-gbp (http://www.exfinuk.com/historical-forex-gbp)
Computer components are already rising in price - they mostly come from the $ zone.
The Greeks have been treated harshly by the EU - but they overwhelmingly wanted to stay in the eurozone. Have cake and eat it not possible!
What is means is that we will spend the same in GBPs when we go back in September, but less in euros.
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Enjoying best of both worlds at moment..pounds cheap to buy for next uk trip..
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When will all the "remoaners" just give it a rest. It is what it is. There have been winners and losers from the outcome and that will continue. Such is life. If the cost of my fortnightly holiday is going to go up I either suck it up or don't go. Choices choices.
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Thank you T.B. I am surprised J. hasn't done a 'Dave' . Please can we let it drop now. It's over, done with. Let's just concentrate on lovely San Stef. now. And a lovely holiday yet to come for some of us. .......Pllllllease. :-X
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I didn't start this topic. It's clearly named. Those who don't want to read it don't have to.
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It's true you didn't start it Jumbo but you're doing a good job of keeping it going. 43 days had elapsed from the last post to yours on the 12th.
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Lol
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As you rightly say - time is passing, and the uncertainty has not gone away. We're now hearing late 1919 at the earliest for an exit. That sounds suspiciously close to an election. So I don't think the relatively small majority who voted Leave will necessarily get their way in the end. Stupid phrases like "Remoaners" do not quite encompass the magnitude of what this decision means. Where appropriate, it's entirely justified to point out, I think, what the realities are. Currently, it's not looking exactly brilliant.
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"Currently, it's not looking exactly brilliant."
As it was before ???
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As it was before what?
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The vote to leave. Come on jimbo keep up :)
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"We're now hearing late 1919 at the earliest for an exit. That sounds suspiciously close to an election."
It's fairly close to the election which resulted in a coalition governmement led by David Lloyd George certainly.
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Stupid phrases like "Remoaners" do not quite encompass the magnitude of what this decision means.
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So now I'm stupid. Beaten by the greater intellect clearly.
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ok - BeLeavers, then. I didn't say you were stupid - just phrases like that!
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Why bother to read a topic that you wish would go away! Just don't bother with it. I don't follow all topics just those that I'm interested in. :)
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Erm, consider ourselves told :P
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I agree with Gillie! If you don't like a topic then don't read it!!
I may agree/disagree with what is being said, but I do not like it when childish insults are used rather than a logical argument!
We may not like/agree with other people's opinions, however, we should all be open for debating the subject in an adult manner!
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Jeeps !!! And again, I think sometimes people just take things to seriously, we'll not know for a while yet what will really happen, until then we have to take the good or bad and get on with it.
Anyway roll on Monday
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And many of us who disagree can happily have a drink and a hug in SS, and do.
But, it's a serious issue. It has world-wide implications. It's not normally the British way to run away and hide, but that's what the vote means, it seems to me.
Actual Brexit is retreating over the distant horizon as the government postpones the issue. The jury is still out on whether the Scottish parliament can veto the exit. This was a "non-binding" referendum, and if parliament decides that it's against the best interests of the UK it won't happen. Meanwhile, let's enjoy the rubbish exchange rate!
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Why bother to read a topic that you wish would go away! Just don't bother with it. I don't follow all topics just those that I'm interested in. :)
Agreed Gillie, me too! (Hello Jimbo). :)
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And many are enjoying the rubbish exchange rate.
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Oh yes... :)
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Most of the population of America will be arriving shortly!
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Well we've got everybody else over here :D
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And many of us who disagree can happily have a drink and a hug in SS, and do.
But, it's a serious issue. It has world-wide implications. It's not normally the British way to run away and hide, but that's what the vote means, it seems to me.
Actual Brexit is retreating over the distant horizon as the government postpones the issue. The jury is still out on whether the Scottish parliament can veto the exit. This was a "non-binding" referendum, and if parliament decides that it's against the best interests of the UK it won't happen. Meanwhile, let's enjoy the rubbish exchange rate!
I have to say Jimbo that's brilliant - conciliatory while fanning the flames - running away and hiding indeed. Unbelievable.
Thank goodness our fantastic Olympians aren't plagued with negative thoughts. Their can do attitude is a great example of what the people of this country can do when they put their minds to it. Go GB in everything.
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Well said..
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I'm half Welsh and one of my relatives lived in Tredegar, which I remember as a child being a pit and a lot of houses clinging to an almost vertical mountain side. They had a little shop near the top and I have vivid memories of being told I could go and take whatever sweets I wanted. And an Eagle Annual (early days), but most of all the miners singing Calon lān as they came off shift, their helmet lamps like fireflies in the dark. My mother was Welsh and my father was English and I was brought up in England. But I went often stay on my own with my grandmother in a remote house with no electricity a few miles from Dowlais. I roamed the hills. I dropped stones down mine shafts. I felt the first tremors of love for a girl called Myfanwy, who lived in a village called Pantywain (long since bulldosed).
Later, as a writer, I've worked with lots of people in Germany, Austria, Italy, France, the Netherlands. I think my early experience in the foreign country of Wales helped me to see other cultures as something to embrace - not quite so different as first appearances suggested. Before that I found, in Africa, that I had more in common with black Africans than my compatriots - and like the miners before, despite poverty and awful circumstances, they could sing, oh how they could sing.
I ramble on like this simply to show that I believe it's better to come together - that lines on the map defining borders are mostly relics of arbitrary past wars - that the attempt at least, despite its failures, to unify Europe after two disastrous conflicts, is better than a retreat into isolationism. I cannot see any compelling economic reasons for leaving the EU - on the contrary. I would very much have preferred us to stay in and argue each case. Many will disagree, but I think that the rather unpleasant press we have fed a succession of lies (it never was £350m, for example) to a people wishing for an end to austerity.
I hope that's calm enough. I don't hate, or dislike, anybody I've met in San Stef who voted Leave. I think that they were cheated, deluded, sold a bag of deceptions. They keep telling me it will all be wonderful eventually but don't appear to have any concrete plans for how to achieve it. I'm not a Moaner. I'm sad at the insult to my friends in Europe. I'm sad that the country which fought the Nazis to secure peace in Europe has retreated into being an insignificant blob on the map.
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"Myfanwy" REALLY !! ;D sorry just my sense of humour.
"insignificant blob on the map."
Come on jimbo, do you really believe that ?
Only time will tell, lets give it a chance and as Tredegar says lets be a bit more positive, enjoy our holidays in San Stef.
There are many worse places in the world to live than the UK.
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Really, spesh - taking the proverbial out of Welsh girls' names is not the way to win friends and influence people. She could have been called Blodeuwedd or Tangwystl. I can still, strangely enough, remember her. She had blue eyes and black hair in pigtails. She used to giggle when she met me - a tradition continued by many people since then!
I do think we have an inflated opinion of our significance in the world. The days of Empire are long gone. We've flogged most of our manufacturing to the Far East. Our advanced research has largely been financed by the EU. We will survive - albeit at a significant cost.
Your punishment - if such it be - for insulting Welsh women if to watch this rendition of "Myfanwy" 300 times:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNtn8B3zz8g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNtn8B3zz8g)
J :-)
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Sorry jimbo only watched 201 times, gotta plane to catch.
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As the farcical events of our exit from the EU unfold, I'm sure many of those who voted for Brexit will admire Winston Churchill.
Here's what he had to say:
"We must build a kind of United States of Europe."
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Go Brexit
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Yes - Go away!