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Title: Beachbummer
Post by: joan on September 04, 2019, 07:10:09 PM
 Have been going to SS for 27 yrs, always go to the far end of the beach by the hut as usually quieter there. Never have had any problems there until today.
The small section of sunbeds 13 umbrellas in total have only been there for two years.
We got set up near the waters edge at least 25 - 30 metre from the nearest bed.
To our surprise he came over and told us to move as we were spoiling the Vista for his paying clients!!!!
After much discussion we made it very clear that the beach is a public place and we can sit where we choose. He admitted that it was a public beach so he could not stop us. I offered the services of the local constabulary but he definitely declined,he backed off when he knew he couldn't win.
Looking forward to round 2 tomorrow  ???
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 04, 2019, 07:41:24 PM
Cor what a cheeky so and so,glad you stuck to your guns.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Karen on September 04, 2019, 07:59:38 PM
Yes, we were there in July, on those beds and we saw him do that a couple of times, thought it a bit odd. We would also have questioned him, if that had happened to us, it is a public beach, no one is questioned when they put their towels down at the top end of the beach. :)
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 05, 2019, 10:45:22 AM
He won't get much change from the regulars will he,they all know the ropes.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: GarySam on September 05, 2019, 11:21:47 AM
That's the end we like, just beyond Steptoe and Son overgrown holiday shack. Will find out over the weekend when we arrive
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: joan on September 05, 2019, 11:49:12 AM
Well I am a bit more informed today about him. He's a self important prat. We wondered if had done in the past to others.
We should all flash mob him that would give him something worry about.

We shall not be moved :-*
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 05, 2019, 02:27:48 PM
Good on yer!
I shall keep my out for him when I go and be ready.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: joan on September 05, 2019, 07:09:28 PM
Yes Maggie he's just an idiot. We went down today and not a peep out of him. Other came later and put their things down nearby and not a word. He was too busy nattering to his cronies.
Garysam the shack is still there and now has a green coloured roof. It does seem a little more cared for now. Hope you have a good flight out. Weather has been very hot
a bit more breezy today.  We keep hearing reports of a storm coming but who knows. We brits always have our brollies .
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 05, 2019, 10:10:03 PM
Sounds as though he has learned his lesson.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: BarbaraG on September 06, 2019, 09:43:18 AM
We're not really beach people, but whilst we're here we're going to go down there one day to see if we can spot this obnoxious character!
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 06, 2019, 01:55:17 PM
We're not really beach people, but whilst we're here we're going to go down there one day to see if we can spot this obnoxious character!

Yes and give him the message.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: joan on September 06, 2019, 07:06:00 PM
Ha ha I hope you found him Barbara. He wears a checked skirt.... :D and has a beard
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: joan on September 06, 2019, 08:39:20 PM
Could someone pass this on on the other SS facebook site.
I'm not on Facebook but he is
Mad greec
Perhaps more people will see this and may be here too.
He'll be sorry that he's ever opened his mouth.
PS His avatar is of him and donkey......who's the biggest ass?
Ha ha I hope you found him Barbara. He wears a checked skirt.... :D and has a beard

;D
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Karen on September 06, 2019, 08:52:24 PM
I assume he has a licence to be there? As I said, we used these beds a couple of times.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 07, 2019, 12:39:36 PM
I am surprised they haven't ganged up on him if he is unlicensed.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Karen on September 07, 2019, 12:40:48 PM
I hear he allegedly is unlicensed which is unfair on the other hoteliers

I'm surprised the other sunbed owners havent complained to their local council then.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: joan on September 08, 2019, 11:54:30 AM
Perhaps because he's hidden at the end no one really sees him.
Yesterday a chap was digging to make a channel for the sea to flow into an existing pool to make it a little deeper for him to lie in
I heard voices but they were speaking German guess who it was? No prizes.
The chap went back to where he was and then returned a little later to carry on making the the channel. So looks as if our man in a skirt was at it again.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Karen on September 08, 2019, 12:18:16 PM
The locals would know he was there. The sunshades are the big wooden ones, so it has taken something to set it all up. Very strange. We welcome the beds being there as it's easier for my husband, but skirtman has no rights to dictate who goes on his 'patch'
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 08, 2019, 01:21:26 PM
Let's hope he keeps on being told where to go.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: BarbaraG on September 08, 2019, 07:29:53 PM
Well, we finally did our walk along the beach today, went all the way down to the nudist part (the sights you see when you haven't got a gun), but there was no trace of the beskirt
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: BarbaraG on September 08, 2019, 07:33:13 PM
Sorry about that, predictive text doesn't like the word "beskirted" - meant to say the beskirted menace. Maybe he doesn't work Sunday?
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Karen on September 08, 2019, 08:50:54 PM
Barbara, he has a little encampment at the beginning of the sunbeds and has another man and sometimes a woman with him.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: anna on September 10, 2019, 03:02:17 PM
as "Mad greec" is not with this forum, it is utterly unfair (politely said..) to write that you HEARD he is unlicensed. He has done all legal procedures with the Corfu town authoriities last year, took part in the call for rentals concerning parts of the beach- as all other sunbedowners have to do !!. He got his permission, has paid the fee ( which is not low) for two years and is in all ways legal! I translated his papers, as he lives abroad in winters) You might have had an unpleasant experience or talks , i wasnt there..wont judge that. And yes, the beach is public, but some common sense wont harm, when the whole beach is empty more or less, and especially at the far end.......... and there is no real need to spread one's towels right in front of others, whoever they may be!
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Karen on September 10, 2019, 03:20:54 PM
Thanks a for explaining that Anna. Joan did say they were 25-30 metres away at the waters edge, not right in front of the sunbeds. We used his beds this year and someone tried to set up to the side quite a way away and he moved them on. People are not moved on at the top end of the  beach. However I do have to say, he was polite and helpful when we were  there. :)
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Jimbo on September 10, 2019, 03:57:24 PM
Point well-made Anna! But it might be good to pass on the message that he might be wise to be a little bit less territorial over this large expanse of sand.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Karen on September 10, 2019, 04:02:05 PM
Point well-made Anna! But it might be good to pass on the message that he might be wise to be a little bit less territorial over this large expanse of sand.

Quite right Jim. :)
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Gavlah1973 on September 10, 2019, 10:43:40 PM
Might he be worried about the turtles eggs?
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 11, 2019, 12:49:36 AM
Hope they are safe
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Jimbo on September 11, 2019, 02:12:02 AM
Anne Wenz Dorou posted this on Facebook:

"Writing on behalf of Mad Greec, and his local business "Relaxing point" which is the area at the end of the beach with ombrellas. Mad greec , Kostas is the actual name, has to cope with a very recent and sad loss of a close family member and  all things involved . As we are good friends he asked me to informvisitors to Agios Stefanos  about some very unpleasant and really mean posts about him, posted a few days ago,  on the sanstefanos forum with the title BEACHBUMMER. Quite many members from this group might be on http://www.sanstefanos.co.uk/smf/index.php. .
Here's the story:
a British couple, thinking they "own the world", or Agios Stefanos (in their own words) , because they have been coming for many years, were upset about him as he asked them to move on a bit ,after they had choosen to place themselves right in front of the sunbeds he rents out, thus annoying his customers. There had been plenty of empty space  in the area for the couple to settle themselves nicely . just a few meters further down the beach.
Anyway, the conversation they had was not the most pleasant one, Kostas gave in in the end. The other point and reason he asks people to move on just a bit, is the turtle eggs' protection the police asked for. If a few people place themselves near to the site.. others will follow, as we all know.
Now, complaining is not forbidden in this country, but spreading false accusations is not acceptable! . The complaining person on the forum , a Joan- whoever that might be- wrote this :
,"JOAN :I hear he allegedly is unlicensed which is unfair on the other hoteliers"...............
Kostas asks for an immediate public apology for this ! He is fully and legaly licensed from the Corfu authorities for last year's season and this year's, paying rent , taxes and whatever else involved.  He is utterly upset and sad about the incident.
There is no need for comments here, please just be informed.  Sadly quite many long year visitors seem to think they "own" the place and its people , in many cases! They don't, none of us , local or foreign, does!
Please show respect and consideration for businesses, all kind of changes , families, relationships and much more!"
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: anna on September 11, 2019, 11:04:41 AM
subject closed for Kostas. As i had said, he is not on this forum, and has got enough other problems right now personally. It was important to him to state that all he does is legal.One cant just keep quiet when false accusation are made.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: AndrewK on September 11, 2019, 12:20:08 PM
A pertinent explanation from Anna and very well said.

For the couple of years I have known Kostas he has been one of the most helpful and polite individuals in San Stefanos.

I cannot speak about the unfortunate incident that kicked this off as I was obviously not there, but there is sometimes a feeling among some that a small minority of visitors do seem to think the place belongs to them.

Kostas was trying to run a small business and as Anna so rightly stated was fully licenced - he deserves respect and not ill-informed comment. Unfortunately sometimes a few people do not seem to think about where they may set themselves up on what has to be described as fairly expansive and wide (at present) beach.

I wish Kostas the best for the future as I understand this maybe his last year. He will be sorely missed by many as he offered a service on that part of the beach that was generally very well received.

A sincere and big thank you for Relaxing Point over the last two summers.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Karen on September 11, 2019, 01:09:57 PM
As I said he was always helpful and polite to us and will miss the beds next year
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: BarbaraG on September 11, 2019, 07:27:44 PM
Reading the above has reminded me that there are two sides to every story.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 11, 2019, 08:01:42 PM
Yes there are and we should remember.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Jimbo on September 12, 2019, 12:42:20 AM
What puzzles me is why anybody would actually want to plonk themselves down in front of a row of beach-beds anyway!
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: loftyscot on September 12, 2019, 10:56:03 AM
Reading the above has reminded me that there are two sides to every story.

My mum always told me there are three sides....... ie the truth, which is usually somewhere in the middle, lol  ;)!!
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 12, 2019, 11:22:27 AM
What puzzles me is why anybody would actually want to plonk themselves down in front of a row of beach-beds anyway!

Nowt so queer as folk Jimbo.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 12, 2019, 11:23:00 AM
My mum always told me there are three sides....... ie the truth, which is usually somewhere in the middle, lol  ;)!!

Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: GarySam on September 14, 2019, 12:37:49 PM
We used his beds five times. He was chatty, friendly and tended the turtle egg exclusion area daily. We only saw him ask one guy to move who was cheekily about a foot off two unused beds meaning no one would use them. Ohers were within 10 or 20 metres and he said nothing to them.
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Karen on September 14, 2019, 02:06:36 PM
We used his beds five times. He was chatty, friendly and tended the turtle egg exclusion area daily. We only saw him ask one guy to move who was cheekily about a foot off two unused beds meaning no one would use them. Ohers were within 10 or 20 metres and he said nothing to them.

I would say that was reasonable to ask him to move, being so close, perhaps he was trying to nick the shade from the sunshade!
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: GarySam on September 14, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
He was
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: Karen on September 14, 2019, 03:38:03 PM
He was

Haha ;D cheapskate!
Title: Re: Beachbummer
Post by: maggiesaes on September 14, 2019, 08:54:28 PM
Serves him right then cheeky so and so